Final Fantasy VI Randomizer
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About rods, I do personally actually like them not being able to break. On the one hand, depending on how readily accessible they are, it becomes far too easy when you can break rods all day from the word go. Honestly, rods are powerful enough with the fight command since they proc lv2 spells, and if a rager can use one you basically win (like in last nights surprisingly close race- incidentally, Andrew screwed up his movements in the 11th hour multiparty battle and lost by a little under a minute for those of you who didnt catch the whole thing). Most of my complaints about rods originate from a race that I lost to Andrew where I had found an ice rod (and sprint shoes) in the training room, and was banking on breaking that thing to get past Vargas, since i straight up skipped south figaro and had limited healing items. Of course, that was the exact moment I found out we couldn't break rods, and yeah. Not fun. Prolly my fault for not checking the readme, but whatever.

Quote: However, I don't think that Ifrit/Shiva or Flame Eater necessarily need
to be made weaker. I think that simply because it's intended to be for
racing doesn't mean that you should always be able to charge through and
still beat everything. I feel like planning and making decisions on
which encounters to fight to learn the spells you need or get enough
money/EXP is part of the speedrun. As long as it's not excessive, like
for Vargas.
I agree with this also, really. it's no fun if it's too easy. The main issue I had with these fights is really based on a small sample size where there really was only one way past both fights (outside of grinding a pile of levels). Ifrit and Shiva are honestly fine I'd say, there is a save right next to them so you can throw attempts at them until you don't get powerful party-wipe caliber stuff thrown your way, and while the luckbox wallring we had in the one full WoB race was really the only reliable way to win, I'm pretty sure we both had access to runic and were just dumb when we picked our party for that section of the game.

Flame Eater is a bit different in that you have a forced party though. Ive played through this game quite a few times, obviously, and Ive never until that race noticed what a complete as*h**e that guy is, because, well normally you break rods/aqua rake/morphed icebrands hits etc. He really seems to be designed to be killed really fast with water/ice-stuff, like a damage race or something. countering everything with fire 2 is vicious enough, but he can also decide to just outright end you by reflecting himself and bouncing fire 3 spells at your team which are OHKOs to even overlevelled teams. Again, small sample size since we've only done the one WoB race (though we've probably both played the randomiser casually and I dont ever remember him being an issue), but man lemme tell ya, doing that part over and over for at least an hour was not fun.

And while the general concensus is Vargas still needs less HP, I noticed last night during our first failed race cause of this guy, the real problem is the countdown. The amount of HP he has is fair to everything but umaro-sabin with a bad initial weapon if he doesn't condemn you like that. Might be a more interesting way to make more winnable seeds (without excessive grinding I mean. every seed is winnable if you voluntarily overpower yourself).

Also, it was pretty cool that you played along with us last night, LK. Im not sure how popular the randomiser is outside the site, but it might be neat to have a weekly/bi weekly race with a handful of folks. Ive done a few punchout races with some of those folks, and I got to say the races are my favorite part of streaming gameplay. Long as we're all using the livesplit timer, it wouldnt matter too much if we all don't start at the exact same time, which naturally is impossible to co-ordinate over the internets.

Lastly, a small wish- a program that creates a save for the generated rom at the start of WoR.
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Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 08-27-2014, 11:32 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Gi Nattak - 08-27-2014, 02:36 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 08-27-2014, 03:44 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 08-27-2014, 09:03 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Cecil188 - 08-27-2014, 11:17 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Lockirby2 - 08-27-2014, 11:33 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Cyprus - 08-28-2014, 12:20 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tomato - 08-28-2014, 03:53 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Arbiter - 08-29-2014, 02:22 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 08-29-2014, 05:42 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Arbiter - 08-29-2014, 12:28 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 08-31-2014, 02:08 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 08-31-2014, 05:23 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Arbiter - 08-31-2014, 07:04 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 08-31-2014, 08:23 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by madsiur - 08-31-2014, 08:50 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 08-31-2014, 10:29 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Arbiter - 09-01-2014, 12:05 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-01-2014, 12:13 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Arbiter - 09-03-2014, 09:54 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 09-03-2014, 10:28 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-03-2014, 10:43 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 09-04-2014, 01:36 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-04-2014, 05:40 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 09-04-2014, 06:10 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Arbiter - 09-04-2014, 07:47 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by seibaby - 09-05-2014, 06:51 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-05-2014, 07:54 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by seibaby - 09-06-2014, 04:27 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by seibaby - 09-09-2014, 07:03 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 09-21-2014, 05:58 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-21-2014, 09:35 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Lockirby2 - 09-21-2014, 11:03 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-21-2014, 12:26 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Lockirby2 - 09-21-2014, 12:40 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-21-2014, 02:36 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Lockirby2 - 09-22-2014, 08:37 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by dn - 09-22-2014, 08:57 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-22-2014, 09:38 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Lockirby2 - 09-22-2014, 11:40 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-22-2014, 01:32 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by madsiur - 09-22-2014, 05:57 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by dn - 09-22-2014, 06:18 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-22-2014, 07:01 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by madsiur - 09-22-2014, 07:52 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by GrayShadows - 09-22-2014, 09:22 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-22-2014, 09:30 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by GrayShadows - 09-22-2014, 09:39 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-22-2014, 09:51 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by GrayShadows - 09-22-2014, 10:09 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 09-22-2014, 11:35 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Locos_Docos - 09-29-2014, 07:56 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Tenkarider - 10-02-2014, 05:24 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 10-15-2014, 08:02 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 03-03-2015, 04:01 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by abyssonym - 03-03-2015, 09:23 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Dessyreqt - 03-04-2015, 02:15 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by abyssonym - 03-04-2015, 11:10 AM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by MrEntity - 08-20-2015, 08:18 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Lockirby2 - 08-20-2015, 10:35 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Jackimus - 08-21-2015, 10:22 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Lockirby2 - 08-21-2015, 11:39 PM
RE: Final Fantasy VI Randomizer - by Seegtease - 09-01-2015, 04:20 AM

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