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(03-21-2018, 07:20 AM)madsiur Wrote:
(03-21-2018, 05:13 AM)Robo Jesus Wrote: Yeah, I had the same issue when I was trying to recreate what GhostXIII did with his "Runic becomes Shock" relic without the rest of what he added in his own mod. I did eventually figure out what to do (incase you want to use it yourself, you can find it on romhacking.net)

Is this what you are reffering to? Tongue

https://www.ff6hacking.com/forums/thread-2015.html

Yep. I picked doing that as it was both easy enough to mess with without breaking everything should I get anything wrong, and a nice test to see if I was doing things correctly.

I kept wondering what was going on (as things were not resulting in what I was expecting), before a convo with darknil elsewhere helped me figure out I also needed to mess with the status menu bits of the coding as well with those particular item triggers (as you probably all too well know, the vanilla game has five such triggers for the five relics that change various battle commands into other battle commands, and those triggers change things in battles and things in the character status screen when equiped). Once I got everything working I made some ips files for changing the five relics (well, technically ten ips files. One set with just the trigger changes, and a second set with both the trigger changes and where each relic with those triggers were then editted with FF3usME), made a text document explaining everything and how it was done (and linking to GhostXIII's patch if they wanted that), offered thanks to those who helped, and then uploaded it over on romhacking for those who wanted it.

If I have time to waste, I may mess around with making more ips files for every variation changable (Fight to Magitek, Fight to Mime, etc., going through EVERY command change possible for those five triggers) to make it easy for other modders to use and utilize for their own projects. Granted, for those who have and know how to do hex work it's not that big a problem, but for newbies and those who want to save time, something like that would be a very useful thing for them.

(03-21-2018, 07:20 AM)madsiur Wrote:
(03-21-2018, 05:13 AM)Robo Jesus Wrote: For newbies, a lot of people forget that sometimes simple stuff like that actually does need to be shown and/or explained.

To be fair it's the kind of info that won't be written in every document, it's in the same class as "Don't forget to substract 0x200 bytes from your offset if your ROM has a header", it is implied the person following the document knows this. And it's an info easily available and documented in various places, only newcomers don't read these document as their intro to ROM hacking. They also won't search the term "SNES memory mapping" on Google if they don't know it actually exist. So considering these two things I understand it is confusing the first time.

However I expect someone read a page named "Hacking FAQ" or "ROM Hacking basics" before posting about common ROM hacking concepts. Our page was lacking this explanation so I just added a question about offsets and SNES addresses (plus one about patching). Thanks for pointing that out. If you have any common question suggestion, feel free to suggest them and I can add them: https://www.ff6hacking.com/wiki/doku.php?id=hacking_faq

Indeed.

When I started things were not matching up at all (it was a mess, much like what ShadowDreamer was describing), and I kept reading and rereading the documents I had on hand and none of the codes were matching up or making sense for why they weren't matching up, and I couldn't figure it out. I believe it was one of your videos on messing with game trigger events that I was finally able to spot that bit where you changed the "Display Offset As" bit. After that, things started clicking into place, and it became easy to make things match and then start messing with things and making them work.

I'm hoping that's the issue ShadowDreamer was having, as it would help make it easier for them to get into things and deal with the problems they were having.

Also, thank you. I may do that, but only after I've had some time to figure out what questions and answers would need to be listed for those who jumped into the deep end of things like I did and didn't know what questions to ask in order to find the answers to their problems. Tongue
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Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 03-18-2018, 11:46 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-18-2018, 11:55 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 03-18-2018, 12:13 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by PowerPanda - 03-19-2018, 12:11 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 03-19-2018, 07:29 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by PowerPanda - 03-19-2018, 07:49 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-19-2018, 08:34 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 03-20-2018, 07:49 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by Robo Jesus - 03-21-2018, 05:13 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-21-2018, 07:20 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by Robo Jesus - 03-21-2018, 08:58 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by PowerPanda - 03-21-2018, 09:55 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by PowerPanda - 03-20-2018, 11:56 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by Robo Jesus - 03-21-2018, 11:58 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-21-2018, 12:40 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 03-21-2018, 06:18 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-21-2018, 08:09 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 03-22-2018, 05:57 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-22-2018, 01:03 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 03-23-2018, 07:09 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-23-2018, 07:43 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by Robo Jesus - 03-25-2018, 10:46 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-25-2018, 12:18 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 03-30-2018, 04:18 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 03-30-2018, 08:31 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 04-03-2018, 11:00 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 04-14-2018, 11:17 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 04-19-2018, 02:14 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by madsiur - 04-19-2018, 02:29 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 04-19-2018, 10:55 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 06-08-2018, 12:49 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by dn - 06-08-2018, 09:38 AM
RE: Need Some Help - by GrayShadows - 06-08-2018, 03:00 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by ShadowDreamer - 06-08-2018, 06:11 PM
RE: Need Some Help - by GrayShadows - 06-14-2018, 12:05 PM

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