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Racing on twitch with Beyond Chaos

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Fair enough... just allow me to answer one last time about that(just read, there's no need to reply) that's my last attempt to convince you about that, if it doesn't work it's ok...

1) Among all 255 combination 5-6 prizes are elemental shields, if you're lucky;
2) There's the chance that one of the 3 elem shields won't even appear;
3) There's really nothing else which might be worth to be hunted without any clue;
4) There's really no way to determinate which item you should bet to win them,
not even an elem. shield;
5) There might be 2 items which awards you with the same elem. shield, but
reading the guide looks like one fight is against a LV 28(feasible in the final
part of the race) and the other fight is against a LV 43(starting from this lv i
consider impossible to win the fight in a colisseum in a race of 4 hours)
6) if you find the bad fight i'm pretty sure the player won't search for further
combinations, he'll try further(1 fail = 1 reset) without even know that he'll
never win or just quit the colosseum and wasted a lot of time;
7) considered all what i wrote above there's a max of 2 combinations for each
elem. shield: 1 is good, the other one is a trap inside the trap, so if you're
searching for a copy of a shield you don't own in particular, then there's 1/255
chances that you'll be so lucky to find it and being also the winnable fight...
(you have more chances of dropping Goo King Sword from Goo King in BoF3
without using Charm, at the first try than finding and winning the searched
shield at the first, second, third, ... , 54th time)
8) you'll waste a lot of time betting/winning/losing and also have to reset unless
you wanna lose half of your inventory, if you wanna keep some other item as
well you have to save many times and it costs a lot of money unless it's a 500
GP shop, in that case you'll have to backtrack from part 3 to part 1 of the
whole dungeon to be able to win an elem. shield;
9) Sure you won't bet lowest/best stuff if you search for a shield, but if for some
reason you'll include also the item to bet in the top item range, you'll never
find the shield.


In other words, unless you're blessed from lady luck, you'll never win that shield and not get the last position(i'm not even saying winning) at the same time... without a colisseum guide.

And the odds of getting stuff in colisseum won't be the same for everybody(elem.
shields in particular) that depends on:
1) which equip you found in the race until that moment(to win the fight);
2) if you have found the item to bet untll that moment(1 among all the items);
3) most important: which characters you put in the party that will find the
colosseum, there are characters that just can't win or even fight in colosseum
(Suicide/worthless commands) and possibly there's just one/two char that have
what it takes to stand that fight... if you make the wrong choice at the start of
the race you'll never get that shield unless you quit the cave and change party
formations(that means resetting all switches actived in Kefka Tower until that
moment if i'm not wrong, and restart the whole dungeon from 0... probably a
suicide)


That means that not even with colosseum guide the random factor is completely
killed, your choices during the race will heavily affect the outcome of hard battles in the colosseum.


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I hope you'll keep in consideration the explaination above.

Anyway Abyss is going to release the next update with only colosseum guide, so let's do this one: we'll do this tournament with colosseum guide as standard rule, then we'll race and i ask to everybody, especially watchers, to examine how we'll use the colosseum guide(i'm pretty sure everybody will try to get some elem. shield) and whether we'll be able to win any shield or not, according to what choices we made during the race:
From this tournament we should gather enough data to be able to ponderate if colosseum guide is harmless or not and so confirm it as standard rule or toss it among optional rules... i hope after that we'll be able to reach a point of agreement.


PS. how should we use colosseum guide? 30 minutes before the race or during the race?


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RE: Racing on twitch with Beyond Chaos - by Tenkarider - 10-21-2015, 01:06 AM
RE: Racing on twitch with Beyond Chaos - by B-Run - 05-24-2016, 07:40 AM
RE: Racing on twitch with Beyond Chaos - by B-Run - 06-13-2016, 09:28 AM

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