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10-29-2016, 11:09 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2016, 07:23 AM by Turbotastic.
Edit Reason: Since the patch is bad, I'll just remove it.
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Because I have no shame, I am sharing two tiny patches for review. Both of these patches are for v 1.0 FF3 US ROMs.
Wolfman Locke (link removed due to lack of quality) - Basically, I replaced Locke's sprites with the sprites I posted last year, complete with truly awful portrait.
Touched by an Esper - This broadens the available spells during battle for each character to those spells fully learned by any character. However, it only takes effect after you get Magicite the first time.
Feel free to critique, complain, or offer advice here. I know these patches stink, but I don't know why they stink...or how to make them better.
I sincerely thank everyone here for helping me get to the point where I could offer these abominations up for shame. Happy Halloween.
Wolfman Locke (link removed due to lack of quality) - Basically, I replaced Locke's sprites with the sprites I posted last year, complete with truly awful portrait.
Touched by an Esper - This broadens the available spells during battle for each character to those spells fully learned by any character. However, it only takes effect after you get Magicite the first time.
Feel free to critique, complain, or offer advice here. I know these patches stink, but I don't know why they stink...or how to make them better.
I sincerely thank everyone here for helping me get to the point where I could offer these abominations up for shame. Happy Halloween.
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I won't comment the work itself but rather the technical part of creating a good patch. In its current state, I won't accept Wolfam Locke. When you do a patch with FF3usME and FF3se the editors reorganize most data they touch. If someone apply your patch in its current state, he's basically losing a lot of his work. If your patch change Locke portrait and graphics, it has to change this only. In the case of dialogues, this is not easily possible since there are pointers so we can't really escape the fact that most $CD and $CE banks are modified.
Here's what Wolman_locke and Wolman_Locke_dialog modify in almost totality:
So to summarize you should isolate your changes with a hex editor and copy them to a clean ROM and notify what is really changed by the patch for what cannot be isolated. This bring the question, would the ROM be broken if you apply wolman_dialog on top of tbae_dialog since they both reorganize the $CD and $CE banks?
I would accept tbae.ips in its current state but you should do a separate thread with a good description, patching info, version, download link, screenshots (if applicable) and avoid things like "This patch is an abomination".
tbae_dialog reorganize and modify bank $2F which is the result of the use of FF3usME. This should be fixed.
Here's what Wolman_locke and Wolman_Locke_dialog modify in almost totality:
Code:
wolfman-locke-no-header.log and wolfman-locke-dialog-no-header.log
D27000 D2777F Monster Graphics Data (384 items, 5 bytes each)
D2A824 D2AC23 Small Monster Graphic Maps (128 items, 8 bytes each)
D2AC24 D2B223 Large Monster Graphic Maps (48 items, 32 bytes each)
E97000 EC336F Monster Graphics
EC3370 ECE3BF Esper Graphics
ED1D00 ED585F Character Portrait Graphics (18 items, 25 tiles each)
ED5860 ED5ABF Character Portrait Color Palettes (18 items, 32 bytes each)
EEB200 EEB25F Pointers to Compressed World Data (3 bytes each, absolute, points to data at $EEB290-$EFFBC8)
wolfman-locke-dialog-no-header.log
EF4A46 EF6A55 World of Ruin Graphics (compressed)
EF6A56 EF9D16 World of Ruin Map Formation (compressed)Code:
wolfman-locke-no-header.log
Lunar IPS (LIPS) Version 1.01
Apply IPS Patch Log
Offset Size RLE IPS_File_Range IPS_File_Size
------ ---- ID 00000000-00000004 5
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Total Patches: 2AA (682)So to summarize you should isolate your changes with a hex editor and copy them to a clean ROM and notify what is really changed by the patch for what cannot be isolated. This bring the question, would the ROM be broken if you apply wolman_dialog on top of tbae_dialog since they both reorganize the $CD and $CE banks?
I would accept tbae.ips in its current state but you should do a separate thread with a good description, patching info, version, download link, screenshots (if applicable) and avoid things like "This patch is an abomination".
tbae_dialog reorganize and modify bank $2F which is the result of the use of FF3usME. This should be fixed.
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Your input is greatly appreciated. The Wolfman Locke was the very first patch I tried to make, so that it needs improvement is no surprise. Basically I just used FF3USME and FF3SE to change the graphics and text for that one. I also used FF3USME to edit the dialogue for the dialogue versions of tbae. I had no idea that much was being changed, though. Thank you for looking it over.
I'm fairly confident both dialogue versions of the two patches are incompatible, but since tbae only changes hex in C2, that should work with either of the Wolfman Locke patches.
Would using a tile editor like Tile Molester also cause problems for editing player sprites, or would using those tools be preferrable for graphic work?
As for describing them as abominations, self-depreciation aside, I know they're bad. First efforts, no matter how well researched or rehearsed, are almost always terrible. I wanted to know why they were bad so I could hopefully do better in the future, and you helped with that. That you were able to find the tbae patch even potentially acceptable is what surprised me.
I'm fairly confident both dialogue versions of the two patches are incompatible, but since tbae only changes hex in C2, that should work with either of the Wolfman Locke patches.
Would using a tile editor like Tile Molester also cause problems for editing player sprites, or would using those tools be preferrable for graphic work?
As for describing them as abominations, self-depreciation aside, I know they're bad. First efforts, no matter how well researched or rehearsed, are almost always terrible. I wanted to know why they were bad so I could hopefully do better in the future, and you helped with that. That you were able to find the tbae patch even potentially acceptable is what surprised me.
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while we are in the argument... what banks/pointers are changed when you deal with FF3SE?
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(10-30-2016, 10:04 PM)Turbotastic Wrote: Would using a tile editor like Tile Molester also cause problems for editing player sprites, or would using those tools be preferrable for graphic work?
What I would do is use FF3se for the graphics then copy with YY-CHR the tiles changed (Locke portrait and sprite only). There is no pointer involved for those (there are but they are not touched). For dialogues you can't do much.
(10-30-2016, 10:54 PM)Tenkarider Wrote: while we are in the argument... what banks/pointers are changed when you deal with FF3SE?
See ips report above or better save with FF3se, make a patch and check the report.
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