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(12-19-2015, 05:18 PM)Tenkarider Wrote: the main purpose of a map should be connect the locations, not to be the main location of the game, all what i actually expect from a map is an enjoyable travel and find secret locations that leads to submaps or just new locations that leads to submaps.

So you're telling me a map is an open world and vice versa since you compare one of the (false) open world feature to the logic of a map. I talk about open world, you answer with a statement an open world is a bad map because it doesn't have the right feature that pertain to a map.........

They are both two different things, an you could even have large OPEN locations within a map. An open world can have many locations if divided correctly, it's not just one big location like you suggest.

(12-19-2015, 05:18 PM)Tenkarider Wrote: so i might group what i hate of open worlds in 3 points:
- world location becomes full of unnecessary shit;
- most of the times quests revolve around search that shit;
- world becomes a huge sub map, rather than a connection between sub maps.

Why would an open world FF7 would automatically have MMO RPGs beginner's quests? Why would Cloud need to collect 10 tissues before being able to ride the shuttle to the gold saucer? Why would draw points in a FF8 remakes make more sense out in the grass in the middle of nowhere on a mini-map rather than in an actual location under a suspect object? I'm applying your logic to other games because frankly it doesn't stand on solid grounds. Why does everything in an open world is unnecessary shit (treasures, loots, etc...) but is ok and suitable for an empty/invisible spots? Is a loot won from a monster in a open world uneccesary but not from a random encounter? Are you talking about MMO RPGs again, which what the remake will not be? Is FFXII full of uneccesary shit because it contain open world locations?

(12-19-2015, 05:18 PM)Tenkarider Wrote: After all mankind since ages makes maps to semplify the representation of the planet, that must be why i like world maps in game.

I can understand that, but the purpose of a wold map in PS1/SNES RPGs is not to simplify the world because there is NOTHING to simplify. You can't decide to investigate and look closer on a certain path you're walking because the only place you can see in details is town A you just left and cave B you're going to. Writing that makes me realize an open world with a smaller scale map to travel faster would be a good option.


(12-19-2015, 05:18 PM)Tenkarider Wrote: i've never seen a failure map until now(the closest thing that comes in my mind is FF2 world map because it was too much wide since the beginning and well... it was quite similar to an open world on a second thought: if you spend a whole day exploring a map and still no made any significant progress, then it's a bad sign)

Big small scale map is not an open world. Having a linear world map is not good either, if the only available path in more than 70% of the time is the connection between two locations and the only exploration or so you can do is when you get an airship. Even then, early RPGs had to plan everything in order to restrict your exploration.

Your position is the same as someone 20 years ago would was cursing the FF7 3D model replacing sprites. Wolrd map can be fun but you can't deny that world maps were born more from technological limitations rather that an actual choice or preference. Same with 3D models. It doesn't mean no more world maps or sprites, FFIV:CC is a good example of a remake that keeps the roots elements but the DS remake is also very good with voice acting and 3D models. It's a matter of preference for you but you got to accept that an open world FF7 remake can be a logic choice for the developers given they want to make something different and realizing they have the possibility to show in much greater detail the FF7 universe.

Still I'm confident I'll be happy with any of the two options or a mix of both. What is not really acceptable in 2015 however is linearity given the technological possibilities, but neither a world map or open world cause that so it is another debate.
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PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 06-15-2015, 10:30 PM
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RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-05-2015, 07:26 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Seiken_X - 12-06-2015, 08:23 AM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-06-2015, 10:23 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Tenkarider - 12-07-2015, 04:32 AM
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RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-07-2015, 06:20 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-12-2015, 01:50 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Catone - 12-12-2015, 02:04 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Tenkarider - 12-12-2015, 05:12 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-12-2015, 06:12 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Tenkarider - 12-12-2015, 07:13 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Catone - 12-12-2015, 07:37 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-12-2015, 08:09 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Tenkarider - 12-12-2015, 08:50 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-19-2015, 02:44 AM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Catone - 12-19-2015, 10:01 AM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Lockirby2 - 12-19-2015, 11:05 AM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-19-2015, 11:22 AM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Tenkarider - 12-19-2015, 12:48 PM
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RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Lockirby2 - 12-19-2015, 04:06 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Catone - 12-19-2015, 04:34 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Tenkarider - 12-19-2015, 05:18 PM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-20-2015, 01:53 AM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by Tenkarider - 12-20-2015, 05:43 AM
RE: PS4 FF7 Remake - by madsiur - 12-21-2015, 07:21 PM
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