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(07-16-2014, 07:10 PM)Xenovant Wrote: It isn't only our society... look back to any ancient civilization, there were always people who wanted to have more, everywhere.

Thousands of years of oppression have made this: a society where any action create winners and losers. A society that produce pain, poverty and exploitation. It doesn't mean it can't be changed, because I don't think it's in our nature to produce such social structures. At one point you got to think that democracy will be replaced by a better system, who would have believed in democracy in the 15th century after all?

(07-16-2014, 07:14 PM)Edrin Wrote: The problem is that the side of humanity that wants to better himself is the same side that wants to better his community. They are pretty much one and the same. You can't rid yourself of one without ridding yourself of the other. That pride for your nation can't survive without personal pride as well.

I'm thinking there should be ways to fulfill your needs and at the same time help the society. However, this is not encouraged in the society we live in.

(07-16-2014, 07:14 PM)Edrin Wrote: I will say again, in an ideal world with ideal people, this could be done. But people aren't ideal, and changing the government structure isn't going to produce ideal people to follow it.

I'm not talking about changing the government structure, I'm talking about getting rid of it. Think about the people deciding for themselves in "unions of unions of unions" (etc...). But after all the essence of anarchism in general is voluntary conduct. You couldn't for someone to live in such a society unless he wants to and be ready to behave in a certain way. This is why I talked about the importance of education. There is no detailed model of how such a society would look like because all individual choice of the people living in the society must be respected. However we can imagine people not wanting to be part of it could go be gatherers/hunters in the woods in a far away land lol.

(07-16-2014, 09:51 PM)Tenkarider Wrote: A glimpse of hope?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oc...age-utopia

History has proven it can work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution ;)
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Political views - by madsiur - 07-14-2014, 04:47 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by Xenovant - 07-14-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by Gi Nattak - 07-14-2014, 07:19 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by Xenovant - 07-14-2014, 07:50 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by Lockirby2 - 07-14-2014, 08:26 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by Tenkarider - 07-14-2014, 10:06 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by Cyprus - 07-14-2014, 10:55 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by B-Run - 07-15-2014, 07:27 AM
RE: Politiucal views - by madsiur - 07-15-2014, 02:45 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by Tenkarider - 07-15-2014, 03:53 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by Xenovant - 07-15-2014, 04:05 PM
RE: Politiucal views - by madsiur - 07-16-2014, 06:23 PM
RE: Political views - by Xenovant - 07-16-2014, 07:10 PM
RE: Political views - by B-Run - 07-16-2014, 07:14 PM
RE: Political views - by Tenkarider - 07-16-2014, 09:51 PM
RE: Political views - by madsiur - 07-16-2014, 10:10 PM
RE: Political views - by Xenovant - 07-16-2014, 10:27 PM
RE: Political views - by Tenkarider - 07-17-2014, 12:04 AM
RE: Political views - by Xenovant - 07-17-2014, 12:08 AM

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