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As suggested from Madsiur i did the Global Boss Challenge... wait, rather than a submission i'll consider this one as a review instead, even because if Zeemis would see which exploits he didn't cover, he would hardly accept my video as valid.

I could have been able to do that in one day, but i don't have all that time, so i used when possible an hour or 2 of free time... here we go!

4) Tenkarider Vs Global Boss Challenge(made by Zeemis)
download link... Actually 5 of 8 bosses have a dead link Finger
As far as i know, only Lockirby2 and i(because LK passed to me the file) have the whole challenge files(PM one of us, if you want to play this challenge)

The battle..? whatever it is:




My judge depends on:
- The design of the boss battles;
- Exploits to the bosses(the unwanted ones);
- Good or bad choices;
- If there's a proportional increase of difficulty from a boss to another one.

Since there are 8 bosses, i'm gonna split the vote in 8 parts and then merge the result in one final judge, so a great boss will be ignored if on the other side there's also an awful one.
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NOTE: I won't count cheapness(8 x attack massive damage, quick, or Ultima barrages) as exploits/weakspots, only the holes left from the programmer, while creating the challenge.
If i'd do that, then all the bosses would require an anti-one shot AI script to being accepted, which would cut out 99% of the existing bosses of FF6 hacks and not from being accepted Laugh
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First of all, i'm gonna mention the 2 terrible exploits i found:

- Bosses have their Metamorph(Ragnarok esper) resistance unmodified, so all of them have from good(12.50%) to piece o' cake(99.60%) chances to being morphed, only HP loops lifes will save them from being pathetically easy to kill;

- The infamous Old Espers Exploit: since he made some patch on existing hacks, other than different weapons/spells/allies/commands/etc. there will be also custom espers, called with summon command: in order to avoid the player to use the old espers, he tweaked 'em to make kill yourself(even with death immunity), if you use espers... the problem is that he forgot to remove the possibility of change manually the target of the espers... the bosses are running away, as i speak... Finger


1) Light and darkness crystals:
Now, any monster which can be affected from all the status(death included), cannot be considered a boss, no matter which AI he has... so those guys won't have a judge... from me, at least.
VOTE: N/A

2) Emperor Gestahl + 4 orbs:
The design of this formation is cool, the boss has 4 minions, and they cover specific roles(Striker, supporter/healer, HP drain, MP drain).
All together they do a great job, if you wanna win without too much troubles, you should break their harmony in less than 3 turns(before Overcast), one of the best ways is to cut their MP with Rasp, even because they have just 999 MP.
Besides, the Ragnarok exploit won't impact too much on the battle: it almost seems more like a strategic factor, which to target with Ragnarok... btw you can use it only once.
VOTE: 8/10

3) Emerald Weapon:
Ragnarok exploit is merciless, due to having 99.60% chances to being morphed, still he has 6 lives(about 300.000 HP), but they'll just make last the battle some extra minute, nothing else.
This time you have Summon as normal command(it should be dummied), with that you'll be able to cast endlessly the equiped esper... so he'll die after 6 Ragnaroks.
His attacks will never do more than 3500 damage, so you just have to equip muscle belts to the party and use Megalixirs(you have 99 of them...)
PS. spamming 8 x massive attack will lead to the same result.
VOTE: N/A

4) Maenad & Bahamut:
Ragnarok exploit is less relevant(Maenad -> 12.50%, Bahamut -> 50%), in exchange we'll have the Old esper exploit usable... 4 death bullets(1 ally = 1 esper) to crush 4 of her 6 lives(it will work even while she's invincible and summons Bahamut), then it will be possible to shorten the battle, trying to eat the last 2 lives with Summon esper Magic Pot(same effect of Ragnarok), or just finish her...
Btw i did also a more normal battle with her, using only Magic Pot as Exploit... still it's really easy to handle the battle: just set the party with 128% Mblock and you'll dodge almost all her attacks... Bahamut with Megaflare should be strong, but since he's weak to berserk or morph... no.
At least it's possible to do a decent battle, even if just for few time...
VOTE: 6/10

5) 4 Elemental Crystals:
The pros are the same of Gestahl battle, but their formation is even more solid: - Earth Crystal(99.60% morph chance) will spam Earth attacks;
- Fire Crystal(99.60%) will swap with a bait(12.5%), which has some strong attack, then he'll cast fire stuff;
- Water Crystal(50%) will switch elemental resistances of himself and his allies, then will cast some water/non elemental spell;
- Wind Crystal(12.5%) basically the core of the battle: he starts buffing his party, his special will easily one shot an ally, and... if you kill one of his guys before him, then he'll automatically revive him, or himself if he didn't die as first(except the fire bait). That will jam your attempts of exploit with Ragnarok... the best bossfight of the challenge for me.
VOTE: 9/10

6) Ozma(99.60%) :
See Emerald Weapon, for references... even worse you'll be healed permanently from his Doomsday(with proper gears), until at least one ally will be in mute status(at the beginning, with his Curse spell)... Finger
VOTE: N/A

7) Proto-Babil(12.50%) :
Same pros and cons of Maenad, but without an(useless) ally and with 2 extra lives.
He hits hard and you cannot dodge him, especially in the second form, which is really vicious.
So the Old espers exploit will work, then you have 4 death bullets, plus some potential extra death, caused from Magic Pot.
Still you'll have to use them wisely: it's not a good idea to use 'em immediately and then face the second form... better to fight him until he changes form, and then finish him with old espers.
VOTE: 8/10

8) Omega Mk.IV(12.50%) :
He'd probably deserved a 9 or 10/10, but that will be impossible(for the same reason i won't give him N/A), due to being beatable with the King of all the exploits: while Ragnarok is impossible to be effective, The old esper exploit will be effective(even with the invincible barrier on) and... unlike the other bosses, in which you can use the old esper exploit, this time you can use Gogo with Mimic command, that means endless death bullets... and so you'll win in less than 2 minutes ;[ (besides he has 6 lives, less than Proto-Babil)
Since that was too much lame, and just to prove that i can beat all of them without exploits, i also did a serious fight with Omega(the only one of the video).
The chances to attack are really few, but with the right timing you won't waste any of them, i acted mainly with the striker and, when necessary, with the others.
VOTE: 7/10


Overall challenge's review:
- Boss battle design -> 7/10 there's a bunch of good ideas, like Maenad, 4 crystals, etc. at the same time there's some of them which is rather banal, like Emerald Weapon... i wonder why he didn't add the 2 blue and yellow orbs that appears in FF7...;
- Exploits ->
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(the only difference is that this cheese has less holes than this hack...)
3/10, really disappointing: after all the work behind, there's still 2 exploits like those 2? there's not even a boss without an exploit... the morph resistance rate is important as much as the death immunity flag, since this was an official challenge of FF6 hacking site, i was expecting to not find something like that...;
- Good/bad choices -> 8/10 most of them was pretty nice: there's map/event editing, new equip/command/set/skill and many other choices that gives you a plenty of choices about your strategy, or which are just nice to see, still i don't get why talking about some restriction, if then the hack always provides you at least 4 copies of all the items of the game(sometimes even 99)...;
- Proportional increase of difficulty? -> 6/10 the chart is quite unstable: we pass from no challenge to good challenge, and then no challenge again... besides, exploits or not, Ozma and Emerald are beatable without make 'em even act at all... Ozma isn't worth of being the 6th boss.

FINAL JUDGE: 6/10 a lot of good features/ideas are put together, but sounds like this work has been done in hurry, which is not exactly the best approach, when hacking... so my message is: FIX MORPH ODDS AND REMOVE OLD ESPER EXPLOIT!! well, i guess it's too much late...
Not so much big those guys, afterall...

PS. seeing Lockirby2 video, after i posted here, i realized that Asura Summon Sets in Life 3 status, and i never been aware about that... Finger


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Tenkarider VS big bad guys - by Tenkarider - 11-02-2014, 03:43 AM
RE: Tenkarider VS big bad guys - by SSJ Rick - 11-02-2014, 12:33 PM
RE: Tenkarider VS big bad guys - by ShinMrKarate - 11-02-2014, 01:37 PM
RE: Tenkarider VS big bad guys - by madsiur - 11-02-2014, 02:33 PM
RE: Tenkarider VS big bad guys - by Tenkarider - 11-02-2014, 04:33 PM
RE: Tenkarider VS big bad guys - by ShinMrKarate - 11-03-2014, 11:13 PM
RE: Tenkarider VS big bad guys - by Tenkarider - 11-09-2014, 12:00 AM
RE: Tenkarider VS big bad guys - by Tenkarider - 11-18-2015, 07:36 PM

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