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BNW: first time run Playthrough

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I started to play BNW(v1.51) just some hour ago, in order to kill 2 birds with one stone, i'm gonna play it for my own pleasure, while recording it at the same time, i'll cut out boring/unnecessary parts from the video.
The first segment won't be particular interesting to show, i guess it's just the approach of BNW with new players: kinda like to make them enter slowly inside the game, just in time to make 'em adapt to its rythm...

Here's the first part:




Relevant facts:

1) Attacked the shell XD;
2) Repomans are immune to fire and resists 2 attacks Sad
3) i'm gonna check and reset chests loots with savestate, if i have the suspect that they'll change the item, later in the game;
4) Flail is OP(istant kill?) ;
5) Snu snu(dinosaur) ;
6) Steal to monsters is not a great idea;
7) Nevermore... it's just me, or when i steal to a monster its AI changes forever to a wild one version?
8) Say no to Edgar, if he asks about seeing the King's "lance" Laugh


I thought it may be interesting to see what i'm gonna do in this run, since i don't actually know much about the game... probably the watcher knows better than me what will going to happen XD

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Here's part 2:





1) Bio blaster rules;
2) Dragon Seal can still wait in the shop;
3) Better buying some antidote, before going to mounts;
4) Mountain condors are wild;
5) Bio blaster rules(Vargas battle).


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Part 3: raft troubles... (time to title the segments)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-9Eu_eEnrs

1) Cube or Glove?
2) Organize better your travel in the raft, or you'll regret it;
3) Don't input Pummel as a drunk(not drunk, but like me :lol: ) ;
4) Minions are more dangerous than Ultros...?
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Part 4: why tier 1 monsters are the most dangerous?



1) Bio blaster rules;
2) Tier 1 monsters Suddenly became the strongest(probably due to lv checks in battlescript);
3) Bio blaster deals damage even to scorpions(which should be immune to poison, at least)
4) Rune edge is stronger, but i'm gonna wait for the WoR chest;
5) Bio blaster rules... am i the only one who thinks that Bio blaster in BNW is overpower?





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Part 5: Locke as a warrior? O_o



1) Mega Armor won't lose against Locke;
2) Bought dragon seal;
3) The invisible bridge behind the house has been removed Sad ;
4) Rescued Celes;
5) Hell Angel appears: Celes perma-runic, Locke morphs into a warrior?








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Part 6: starting to feel underleveled...



1) Shadow + 2 no exp eggs = Shadow becomes untouchable;
2) Forest = deadly monsters;
3) Telstar can be deadly when you don't equip ribbon to the right ally;
4) Spock appears;
5) Ziegfried cannot even swing a sword;
6) Killing the train without Suplex;
7) Serpent Trench: starting to feeling underleveled... is it too low level 8 as average level?

PS: Doesn't that just beat all? i like that Sabin speaks like Rei of Breath of Fire 3 Hold on


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Now that i finished my Czar hack, i can spend some time again on this run... let's restart!

Part 7 - Kefka battle in Narshe




1) Avalanche team
2) The avalanche goes toward Kefka;
3) Bio blaster rules;
4) Hell Rider eats poison, but not pummels...
5) Kefka is weak but won't give me Tiara;
6) So i Replay the scene and steal: Kefka screams like a b*t*h and runs away :lol:
(i can imagine the scene, played as cinematic video XD )
7) Treasure room: 5000 GP!!!
8) Shopping time, Flail and Boomerang? now we're talking!
9) Poor again, but happy Smile

The role of characters are starting to get a shape: Locke is starting to sound more like an Hunter(Strong against enemies, according to their type)
Sabin is a status-assaulter, which hits hard and weakens at the same time...
PS. the one who learnt Doom Fist for real is Sabin, not Vargas: when Pummel hits, seizure works almost like a countdown.


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Part 8 - Even a king must save money for a drill...




1) decided to buy a second boomerang for some type of flying slayer tactic;
2) The drill sold in the castle costs a lot: time to farm some money;
3) Dragon's neck cabinet -> 5000 GP -> half of the time saved;
4) Exploring the new map at the same time;
5) Triggered a mysterious bug that blocked random encounters???

About the bug... check the video: after the second time i exit from Figaro Castle, for an unknown reason random encounters cease to spawn... you can see me walk in the world map for a minute or two, and nothing happens... until i open the inventory screen, then random battles restart to appear O_o
Anyone knows what happened?

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Part 9 - Tenkarider vs Dadaluma (avg lv: 10)




1) Thief glove;
2) Stealing here is awesome;
3) Acid rain guys, when 2x with the dancer is basically a gameover battle... especially in case of back attack; (for my conditions, at least...)
4) Edgar in Zozo, with Bioblaster is like a member of Ghostbusters in a ghost town;
5) Battle with Dadaluma: victory at the first time!
6) That tossed sword doesn't exactly look like a spoon...
7) I should had to expect it, but Red Bull makes you fly XD
8) Finally espers.

Here's some personal consideration about Dadaluma:
The trick of this battle is to keep making work a solid formation for the whole battle, rather than boosting DPS(damage per second) it's better to make always wait one ally, to react quickly to some nasty attack, like the stop attack, of the evil Spoon.
And most important, Edgar must act only after Dadaluma whistles: in this way minions will be one-shotted without making them act and Dadaluma will start to waste a bunch of turns.
Rather than difficult, i'd say more that it's the first battle in which you must build a real efficient strategy.

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Part 10 - What a horrible night to forget buying dried meats




1) I'm so poor that i cannot even buy "nothing" XD
2) Going to opera house... have i forgot something?
3) Some Opera won't hurt too much...
4) Rushing through rats toward Ultros... until i realize that i forgot to buy Dried meat at Jidoor;
5) Barely survived... a miracle happens: learnt cure right before Ultros battle; (avoiding to waste Tonics)
6) A really defensive-style battle against Ultros: first time that Sabin fights in the Back row...
7) I really felt the absence of Celes in this segment...


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I'm very interested in the glitch that caused you to have zero encounter rate. Could you share the CRC32 or MD5 value of the ROM file you're using?

It's especially interesting, because you were standing on the Figaro castle tile when you opened the menu. These tiles are special because walking on them does not increase the threat level and you cannot get an encounter on them. Also, opening the menu resets the threat rate to whatever zone you're standing in. There are only a couple of zones on the world map that have different threat rates than normal, so it rarely comes up, though.

I tried doing the same actions to see if I could reproduce the bug, but I wasn't able to.




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Lol, sounds like i triggered hot stuff Laugh

So you mean that are involved world map zoning encounter options, which can be:
- No encounter;
- Less encounter;
- Normal encounter;
- More encounter?

So that can happen only if there's a No encounter zone near to other encounter type zones?

I'll PM you that...

If anyone else wants to investigate on the bug and it's interested to those info, then PM me Wink


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Now that I was able to use the same version of BNW, I was able to reproduce the bug. It has nothing to do with Figaro castle tiles... the whole area between the castle and Kohlingen is affected. This makes me think that this particular encounter zone was erroneously marked as "no encounters" in this version of BNW. It's a shame, because I was hoping to discover a new bug in vanilla! But those are the breaks, I guess.




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So you say that after you open the inventory in that world zone, then you're basically in moogle charm "status", until you open the inventory once more?
Then this fact is predictable to happen even at Narshe? (since it's happened even in one of the next segments...)

Btw now i'm curious... which relation do you exactly have with FF6? Deep hacking for sure, but you were interested even in finding a potential vanilla bug... is there a particular reason?

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Next triple of segments:

Part 11 - Exploring the new continent




1) Airship = free tent;
2) Albrook -> The first time i buy some protection, until now...
3) 2 empty chests... do they change content in WoR?
4) Zombie status... isn't it a bit early for that? (don't remember...)
5) A quick scouting in the base near esper gate;
6) Forgot to equip Ramuh to Celes until now... what a waste of AP...
7) Neat weapons at Tzen;
8) Hidden chocobo stable at Maranda and straight to Vector;
9) FOXDIE!
10) FAKK2
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Part 12 - Err... who was Dadaluma?




1) No Gold Armor? there was a Reflect ring instead...
2) Ifrit & Shiva VS Runic = Celes wins;
3) Number 024 kicked my ass ~ 8 times Sad
4) Had to change the whole settings to my allies to beat him
5) Dealing with elements was quite something(Ramuh -> 3300 damage)
6) But at the end i won without dealing with element;
7) new espers.

Looks like the Gold Armor was removed... did i missed it in Mtek lab, or it will appear only later?
Another thing: Dadaluma was quite famous around here, but honestly i think number 024 is powerhouse: sure, with runic always on, you block many of his actions, but he hits really hard and the sticky regen forces you to keep attack him, while healing HP and statuses, runic might interfere with your spells, which means than you'll have to use items instead(had to use an X-potion).
The only way to jamming a bit his regen was to use the ATB freeze by item/spells/tools lists...
Btw i waited to attack him until Spirit Claw put him in Slow, Kirin i believe it's a must against him.
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part 13 - Farewell, my dear X-potions Sad




1) Stupid error: i believed purple minion was immune to poison and not to fire;
2) So Edgar used Crossbow without a reason;
3) Fighting dumb the boss -> Dead
4) Fighing seriously the boss -> Piece 'o cake;
5) Pointless scouting at Mtek lab (while crumbling) ;
6) Cranes... horrible backstabbers -> lost once;
7) Changed from evasion gears to defensive gears;
8) Setzer slot attacks are strong, but Go Fish! is even better!
9) Got Terra(finally...)
10) Got the Airship.

Number 128(?) without the arms is helpless, and they die quite soon...
Cranes battle depends on how fast you manage to kill them, you need to kill one of them really soon, or the battle will start to escalate down quickly.


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Part 14 - Unexpected treasure!




1) Nerfed Intangir;
2) Scouting Thamasa for some loot;
3) Letters quest: Why didn't i got the bell before?
4) Piros forest - no Grenade?
5) Got Golem;
6) farming some GP, EXP(for Cyan and Gau) and Rage;
7) Searching for hidden spots/monsters in the world map;
8) Found a text error when buying Zoneseek in the Auction house!
9) Hidden place - Stole a rare Stat Hat!

About the text error... When they ask you if you offer 16000 GP for Zoneseek and you say yes, then you'll shout 15000 GP instead of 16000, or vice-versa... i guess it must be corrected from BTB, right?
The Stat Hat is a rare steal from Onion Kid, which you can meet again in a distant isolated place of the WoB map... which is good, or i'd risked to miss it forever... Steal in Veldt is quite improbable.


Part 15 - Hidden monsters, Mog... and a bug?




1) Hidden Zombone spot in WoB map;
2) Dinosaur in the box gives 10 cheap AP!
3) Lonewolf Quest done;
4) Maybe i triggered the bug in the part 8 on the way to Lonewolf... or maybe just luck?
5) World travelling for getting dances;
6) LLG reference from Old man in the port?
7) Entering into Esper Gate dungeon.

From Narshe town i go and reach Lonewolf without fighting even one time... is that feasible as good luck, or we can say it's due to a no encounter bug, like the one shown in the part 8 of my run?
Another curiosity are the comic lines About LLGers from the oldman that hides you inside a chest... i'm not used to be a LLGer, so i don't know why a LLG needs to do the travel and get Water Rondo dance... can anyone provide an explaination?


Part 16 - Phalanx as new boss? i like that!




1) Atma Weapon <=> Blood Sword is not exactly equal...
2) Boring scavenging underground, even more than necessary;
3) Phalanx and Kefka extra battle... death but still goes on?
4) Don't like, reset and kick their asses;
5) Crushing Blackjack;


I have a curiosity about Phalanx boss battle... Kefka should be planned to being untargetable. Still it's possible to select him(100% miss), but the pointing finger won't be shown... the only way i know to make disappear the finger is calling a monster, with light and flashes apparition... at the same time Esper bridge BG glitches if you do that... so my question is: How did you exactly implemented the untargettability of Kefka, in FF3usME AI battlescript?


PS. i take this chance to say everybody: Merry Christmas!!!


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Part 17 - Shopping, diplomacy, and jackpot!




1) Starting to buy all left stuff in WoB;
2) Full score at Vector to get best prizes;
3) Getting loot at treasure room;
4) On the boat to Thamasa


Part 18 - Playing with fire




1) Ninja Rush;
2) rising sun 2x;
3) Memento Ring is OP;
4) House in fire;
5) Muddle saves the day;
6) Interesting bossfight;
7) Strago is frail as a biscuit.
8) Where's the Grenade vanilla counterpart?

I liked the way i fought the bossfight: using muddle we were 7 against 1... Strago for Zoneseek, Locke hit hard, since the boss was in float, and Terra was busy with healing.
Instead of Piros there were Grenades... but the boss theorically can summon even the counterpart of Grenade in vanilla version... let's call him "super grenade" ... does it exist in BNW?


Part 19 - all the honors to Leo




1) Abolisher is a piece of shit;
2) Magnitude is not a lore?
3) The battle against Ultros is quite slow...
4) Used too much resources... repeat the battle;
5) Relm is very frail(as soon as recruited) ;
6) Leo's moment;

Ultros is nasty: if you don't level Strago enough, he'll be destined to lie in the ground, besides this bastard hinders the resurrection process with AOE attack too much often, it almost denies resurrection. One ally must keep heal, no matter what and the other must attack... the whole thing is quite slow and blizzard makes things nastier... Shell is a must.


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